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	<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: U.S. War Spending in Cartograms - Bearings</title>
		<link>http://www.terrastories.com/bearings/location-51#comment-4603</link>
		<dc:creator>U.S. War Spending in Cartograms - Bearings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 06:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Most Popular Posts Inside Neverland RanchBreaking News: SS Independence Leaving San FranciscoSo Alang SS IndyA California Titan Missile BaseColorado Sugar Beet History &#38; ArchitectureTreatise on TrespassingHighway 101 in a Post-Industrial WestWhy Art and A.D.D. Don't MixProcessing Sugar from Beets in the Early 1900sLocation 51 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Most Popular Posts Inside Neverland RanchBreaking News: SS Independence Leaving San FranciscoSo Alang SS IndyA California Titan Missile BaseColorado Sugar Beet History &#38; ArchitectureTreatise on TrespassingHighway 101 in a Post-Industrial WestWhy Art and A.D.D. Don&#8217;t MixProcessing Sugar from Beets in the Early 1900sLocation 51 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WorkerBee</title>
		<link>http://www.terrastories.com/bearings/location-51#comment-4179</link>
		<dc:creator>WorkerBee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 06:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, me play devll's advocate?  :) 

Hey, as the dollar continues to devalue, you get a bigger pile of cash to burn.......if you can still afford the jet fuel to dump on it...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, me play devll&#8217;s advocate?  <img src='http://www.terrastories.com/bearings/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hey, as the dollar continues to devalue, you get a bigger pile of cash to burn&#8230;&#8230;.if you can still afford the jet fuel to dump on it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Haeber</title>
		<link>http://www.terrastories.com/bearings/location-51#comment-3912</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Haeber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 07:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Eric, 

Thanks for the words.  I do agree that money trickles down in a war economy, just as in any other economy, and technology is definitely a good thing. I'm assuming you're just playing devil's advocate, which definitely commendable. My own thoughts are that war spending are the equivalent of taking a pile of cash, dumping jet fuel on it, and burning it. It might provide a little warmth for a few minutes, but how are you going to buy food after it? 

But politics :-) as usual. I still agree to some degree. Living in Richmond, you see what the abandonment of the Richmond shipyards after WWII have done to the entire community, and the county at large to an extent. 

Anyways, the exposure was about 6min. Motion blur starts to set in at about 5 min, but the longer th ebetter of course. a good 20-25 min exposure will give you a sweet effect, but of course, F-stop should be a good 11 or 13. 

Cheers, 
jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Eric, </p>
<p>Thanks for the words.  I do agree that money trickles down in a war economy, just as in any other economy, and technology is definitely a good thing. I&#8217;m assuming you&#8217;re just playing devil&#8217;s advocate, which definitely commendable. My own thoughts are that war spending are the equivalent of taking a pile of cash, dumping jet fuel on it, and burning it. It might provide a little warmth for a few minutes, but how are you going to buy food after it? </p>
<p>But politics <img src='http://www.terrastories.com/bearings/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> as usual. I still agree to some degree. Living in Richmond, you see what the abandonment of the Richmond shipyards after WWII have done to the entire community, and the county at large to an extent. </p>
<p>Anyways, the exposure was about 6min. Motion blur starts to set in at about 5 min, but the longer th ebetter of course. a good 20-25 min exposure will give you a sweet effect, but of course, F-stop should be a good 11 or 13. </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
jon</p>
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		<title>By: WorkerBee</title>
		<link>http://www.terrastories.com/bearings/location-51#comment-3885</link>
		<dc:creator>WorkerBee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 01:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

As you have more than one follower going by "eric", I'll post as workerbee henceforth.  Very interesting pic - what exposure time did you use on that image?  With the star motion blur I'm assuming 10min+???  Awesome image - I've been experimenting quite a bit of late with nigh photography, I'll share my blog URL via email with you shortly.  

Anyway, yes, we spend an enormous amount of money on military/defense.  And not to sound like an "old" republican (because I'm not, well not necessarily both anyway), a lot of that money trickles down into the private sector - living relatively close to a military base, I see that in action daily.  Being in the bay area close to Alameda and the reserve fleet, I can see that the immediate perception of military spending would have more of a past tense connotation though.  Also have to consider that military expenditure is what a lot of high tech industry uses as its R&#38;D budget, especially aerospace - again, perhaps hard to finger an immediate, tangible benefit, but this country would have not aerospace industry left it it weren't for all the military $ funneled into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>As you have more than one follower going by &#8220;eric&#8221;, I&#8217;ll post as workerbee henceforth.  Very interesting pic - what exposure time did you use on that image?  With the star motion blur I&#8217;m assuming 10min+???  Awesome image - I&#8217;ve been experimenting quite a bit of late with nigh photography, I&#8217;ll share my blog URL via email with you shortly.  </p>
<p>Anyway, yes, we spend an enormous amount of money on military/defense.  And not to sound like an &#8220;old&#8221; republican (because I&#8217;m not, well not necessarily both anyway), a lot of that money trickles down into the private sector - living relatively close to a military base, I see that in action daily.  Being in the bay area close to Alameda and the reserve fleet, I can see that the immediate perception of military spending would have more of a past tense connotation though.  Also have to consider that military expenditure is what a lot of high tech industry uses as its R&amp;D budget, especially aerospace - again, perhaps hard to finger an immediate, tangible benefit, but this country would have not aerospace industry left it it weren&#8217;t for all the military $ funneled into it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
		<link>http://www.terrastories.com/bearings/location-51#comment-3566</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 03:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post &#38; photograph, and I agree with what you're saying about these newer discarded industrial structures being a symbol for the throwaway culture which has developed here, I havent made that connection before. 

I thnk another way to restate what you were driving at with the Thomas Friedman reference could be that, military force is used only (if not primarily) when new business for large US corporations stands to be gained, and other means (crippling loans, coup d'etats.. to name a few) fail.  I am being a bit cynical of course.  

Well done also in trying to raise more awareness of the insanity of our defense spending "A true patriot must always be ready to defend his freedom against his government".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post &amp; photograph, and I agree with what you&#8217;re saying about these newer discarded industrial structures being a symbol for the throwaway culture which has developed here, I havent made that connection before. </p>
<p>I thnk another way to restate what you were driving at with the Thomas Friedman reference could be that, military force is used only (if not primarily) when new business for large US corporations stands to be gained, and other means (crippling loans, coup d&#8217;etats.. to name a few) fail.  I am being a bit cynical of course.  </p>
<p>Well done also in trying to raise more awareness of the insanity of our defense spending &#8220;A true patriot must always be ready to defend his freedom against his government&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Al C.</title>
		<link>http://www.terrastories.com/bearings/location-51#comment-3564</link>
		<dc:creator>Al C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rockets! Love it!</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Haeber</title>
		<link>http://www.terrastories.com/bearings/location-51#comment-3553</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Haeber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 03:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks eric. I'll be sure to post more images in the future. In the meantime, though, you can definitely check http://www.flickr.com/photos/tunnelbug for some of the latest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks eric. I&#8217;ll be sure to post more images in the future. In the meantime, though, you can definitely check <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tunnelbug" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/tunnelbug</a> for some of the latest.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://www.terrastories.com/bearings/location-51#comment-3543</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The X's answered my question, thanks. Please post more pictures of site X if you have any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The X&#8217;s answered my question, thanks. Please post more pictures of site X if you have any.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://www.terrastories.com/bearings/location-51#comment-3495</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that one of the test stands at the XXXXXX site?</description>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Haeber</title>
		<link>http://www.terrastories.com/bearings/location-51#comment-3487</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Haeber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, I pulled up the GDP figures. We're about neck-in-neck (GDP wise) with China. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2034rank.html

However, I'm not entirely sure that GDP may be the best measurement. Bigger dollars buy bigger weapons. 

I think essentially, what I was trying to get at, though, is that the U.S. is largely the creation of the world-wide arms race that we're currently going through.

Thomas Friedman has interesting things to say - most notably that a country no longer has reason to invade another country in which they have economically vested interests. He once claimed that no country with a Mcdonald's in its borders will go at war with another country. I get at what he's saying. I wish there was a better way of articulating it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, I pulled up the GDP figures. We&#8217;re about neck-in-neck (GDP wise) with China. <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2034rank.html" rel="nofollow">https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2034rank.html</a></p>
<p>However, I&#8217;m not entirely sure that GDP may be the best measurement. Bigger dollars buy bigger weapons. </p>
<p>I think essentially, what I was trying to get at, though, is that the U.S. is largely the creation of the world-wide arms race that we&#8217;re currently going through.</p>
<p>Thomas Friedman has interesting things to say - most notably that a country no longer has reason to invade another country in which they have economically vested interests. He once claimed that no country with a Mcdonald&#8217;s in its borders will go at war with another country. I get at what he&#8217;s saying. I wish there was a better way of articulating it&#8230;</p>
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